When it was revealed last

month that Ellen Tigh was Battlestar Galactica's final Cylon, the fan reaction was

decidedly mixed. Understandably so. The character had been dead since season three and some viewers felt the last Cylon should be a more prominent player. However, now that we know Ellen is the one, it

puts a few of her past actions into perspective, and yet raises several questions at the same time. KTV reporter Marisa Roffman chatted with Kate Vernon  — who comes back to the show tomorrow night — to get her

take on her character's big reveal, how long she's known about it, how long Ellen's known and why, at one point, she thought she'd burned her bridge with Battlestar

We just found out about your Cylon status a few weeks ago. When did you find out?

[Executive Producer] Ron [Moore] and I were trying to figure out the timeline. To be exact, we’re

not sure when the phone call took place, but I’ve known for

approximately two years.

Two years?!
I know. He told me like three months before the writers strike. And then I went back and shot the episode that revealed me [“Sometimes a

Great Notion”] and that was the very last episode we did [before] the strike. After that, I was

supposed to come back to work right away, but

they rearranged the story so I wasn't in the first three episodes, so

I had to wait longer to shoot. And then they split the season in half and we had that [long break between June and January], so I had to hold on to the

secret until this [half of the] season aired. Finally! It took


It's a long time to have to keep a secret like that under wraps.

It got old, let me tell you. I wanted to say, I’m the Fifth!

Some fans might've been happy if you spilled that secret.

I’m so glad the secret didn’t come out, because as much as fans want

to know, it’s this weird thing, like watching a train wreck. You

can’t help but watch, but it makes you upset for watching. You don’t

really want to know the secret before it’s revealed [onscreen], because

then when it does happen, there’s this anticlimax. I’m really glad that

even those people that [suspected] it was me weren’t

completely sure and that the shock is what it is. Apparently there are

a lot of people who were really thrilled, and a lot are mystified and a lot are upset. Ron has his reasoning. He’s not a random

writer. Everything he puts down on paper has a reason behind it, a

notion behind it, an idea behind it.

Were you surprised when Ron told you? Or did you kind of see it coming?

I was completely surprised! I had been

calling Ron every several weeks, because I mean, what actor wants to

get killed off of Battlestar. Nobody. It was an incredible show to be a

part of. I loved and adored my character. And even though I was dead,

Ron said I would be back in some fantasy sequence. But he wasn’t sure in what capacity. So

every several weeks, I’d pick up the phone and say, Hi Ron, it’s Katie,

just wondering, you know, if I’m going to be back anytime soon. And

he’d say, Yeah, in fact, we’ve written you in, in some fantasy sequence

where you’re torturing your husband to sleep. There were a few

phone calls like that. And the last phone call, he stopped me and he

interrupted my sentence and I thought, oh God, I’ve gone too far. I’ve

burned that bridge. But he said to me, Katie, I’ve just pitched this

storyline to the network and it would feature your character heavily

if they green light it. I was so surprised. A week later, he calls

me back and tells me it’s a go. And I’m thinking, wow, cool. And then

he tells me what it is. I had no idea. The fact that he could consider

me being the fifth Cylon never really entered my frame of

consciousness. At all. I was like, are you sure you’re talking with the

right person? And I loved his reasoning. Ron’s amazing.

Ellen being a Cylon does seem to make sense if you think back to

earlier episodes of the series, especially when she was trying to get

Tigh to take control of Galactica. Do you think Ellen knew she was a


No. I don’t think so. She was a sleeper Cylon. Maybe a part of her was working unconsciously, I don’t know. But consciously, no, Ellen did not have the awareness that she was a Cylon. That’s what my

understanding is. Maybe in her programming, on a deeply buried

subconscious level, there was some sort of motivation on her part for

her husband to gain power, his rightful Cylon power… [laughs] Even

though I never played it like that. I never had it clear that she would

be a Cylon, let alone the fifth Cylon. So it’s Ron’s masterminding that

pulls it all together really beautifully.

Fans first suspected Ellen might be a Cylon when Tigh started seeing visions of her while interrogating Six. Was that foreshadowing or was he just feeling

guilty about his role in Ellen’s death?

I think it’s both. Saul and Ellen have an ancient relationship now.

Now that everyone knows who we are, it’s clear that these two people have been connected and involved and married for thousands of years. And

they’re very much a part of each other. So for him to mix with another

female that is blonde and blue eyed and tall, it was like an overlay of

his tremendous guilt for poisoning the woman that he truly loves and

who he truly wants. I think it was part of his grieving process. When

someone you love dies, you try and let them go and move on with your

life, but you can’t help but have this weird holographic memory of your

past lover.

Obviously the teasers have shown that Ellen is back in Friday’s episode. Is there anything you can share about that?

I don’t want to give any spoilers! I come back and the story begins to unfold. I don’t

want to say anything because it’s not like anything anybody’s going to

ever think of. If I say anything, it’s just going to take away. It’s a

really special episode and more will become clear.

Will you be in the rest of the episodes?

Yeah. I think that’s safe to say. I am.

Since the series is ending fairly soon, we can assume we’re

going to be getting a lot of information in the upcoming weeks.

Each episode is going to hit you right between the eyes and several will have a big “aha!” moment. And then we’ve got the movie, The

Plan, afterwards, which will further wrap things up for everybody.

There’s going to be a lot that’s going to be tied together.

Are you going to be in the movie?


Are you satisfied with where Ellen’s story arc has ended?

Yeah, I am. I’m really– I’m trying to word things so I don’t give

anything away… There’s sort of a peaceful resonance, a mythical

resonance at the end that was quite satisfying to see.

Posted by:Korbi Ghosh